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What a glorious read! 23 pages of joyous, hard-hitting, unquestionable, slamming & victorious truths.
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This is pure GOLD. I think his reign of terror could be over!
It is so awesome, you mean.
Wonderful stuff. But let’s take care not to get ahead of ourselves – this isn’t a victory yet, though it is a step on the way. There’s that little matter of a trial to be held yet – trial date is set for 24th October 2011.
I cant see any lawyer supporting going ahead with a trial in light of such a damming condemnation of Langdells evidence. He’s screwed and gotta be worried about formal criminal investigation of his lies and deceit.
Can’t say he wasn’t warned.
Lots of stuff can be done without a trial, Brian. He’s already put in a motion to have EA’s counterclaim dismissed (which is the one with the fraud allegations in it)- and this condemnation is a condemnation of the strength of the evidence in favour of the injunction motion – it isn’t in itself a finding of fact, which is for the jury.
It’s a hell of a blow to Langdell – all I’m saying is it is a bit premature to claim victory already (as too many websites are already claiming).
He’s doomed alright. We’ve known that for a while. It is a matter of when and exactly how.
Looks like Tim Langdell has no choice but to flee the United States.
Looks harder than that. Remember it his him that bought the lawsuit. If he isn’t there to bring it there is a danger he will be found against (well, we all know there’s that danger anyway, but still).
His best option is not to flee, but to sell his companies to someone with a dollar to spare, a bottomless line of credit and an excess of gullibility.
Any takers?
Good news. But this is just a denial of the preliminary injunction from a court.
But we also know that the USPTO is a massive pile of ass which let Langdell get away with it for two decades.
The good news is that this is a marvellous case to point that out and get it fixed. Nice to be sort of tangentially involved in it.
Picked up by Gamasutra
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/30784/Court_Refuses_Preliminary_Injunction_In_Edge_Trademark_Case.php
That was so beautiful to read I wonder if the judge is a regular at tigsource. Great result!
I only hope that Tim Langdell now pays for the misery he’s brought on small developers and contractors in the past.
Even better – http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2010cv02614/228647/69/0.pdf
These are the End Times, people…
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-07-langdell-war-not-over-yet-papazian
Does this mean that Chaos Edge, from whom a lot of EA’s materials were drawn, could be called in as a witness on this?
Can he just declare bankruptcy and get away with the whole thing? Or will the courts be able to personally get at him for fraud/perjury?
Bankruptcy won’t get you out of a federal criminal prosecution.
Flawless victory! http://cowboyprogramming.com/files/Exhibit%20A.pdf – http://cowboyprogramming.com/files/Stipulation.pdf
Indeed. It looks like this is going to settle, with all findings in favour of EA, the only concessions being:
No declaration that Langdell loses any common law rights he may have
Each party to bear its own costs
No finding of fraud or perjury (I guess that criminal proceedings may not be too far away though), since “neither party admits wrongdoing”)
Super outcome, and I can’t blame EA for not taking it further. There are some loose ends in the extant USPTO cases and of course with trademarks in the UK/Europe – but this is pretty well total capitulation by Langdell and the only way he could avoid perjuring himself giving depositions on the fraud charges which was due to happen on 6th October.
Given that EA are walking out of this, are criminal proceedings still a possiblity?
I kinda wish Chaos Edge would’ve covered the Cross Edge debacle just because I think it’d be cool see it in the spotlight but whatever, Tim’s power is no more so I guess it’s irrelevant.
It would have been great to document every move and act Langdell has done during all this, but it sadly takes too much time to delve into the dirt in order to collate the info for an article. That guy has taken up many hundreds of our man hours over the past few years. Despite just how interesting it all is, and how great the results are starting to look, you can’t help but get that feeling of hate knowing that we’ve had to spend all this time doing the research, where we could have better spent it making games and the like.
Still, we’re so happy that the evidence that everyone on here has helped dig up is actively being used to help bring this empire of lies to its knees.
Hey! I didn’t expect to get an official reply! I understand it probably would’ve been too much work, especially for something as niche as Cross Edge. I just felt a little bad for NIS America since even when they get themselves caught up in a scandal as huge as this one, their stuff still gets ignored.
Thanks for all you’ve done to prove how much of a rotten person Tim is!
There is still some justice in the world…
This is good news!
I can only tell you how appreciative I am (and I’m assuming the majority of the general public who knew of this man) with the time and effort you have put into this to help build this amount of evidence against him. I have no doubt alot of this case was riding on evidence you displayed here.
With the donations to help Mobigame too, you sincerely deserve some recognition for the good you have done here.
Final judgment was delivered today, as agreed between the parties.
In addition, Judge Alsup has ordered that the order denying injunction (the one that details all the fraud stuff and largely based on the Chaosedge research) be sent (a) by the court to USPTO and (b) BY LANGDELL TO ALL HIS LICENSEES by October 15th.
This latter point gives all Langdell’s licensees an open goal to shoot at should they choose.
Wonderful wonderful judgment.
Lol this is awesome, since he has to effectively send documented copies of this to Sony, the people who made Teenage wasteland, the people who made the Edge Movie, and a bunch of others who he stole credit from, since he claimed that all of them are his current licensees. Delicious
No, Tim claims companies to be licensees even when they are not in order to fool the USPTO and to bully small businesses.
For example, he claimed that Marvel Comics were licensees but as found out by EA, Marvel have never licensed anything from Langdell.
Somehow, I don’t think Tim Langdell will show up at GDC 2011.
Anyone notice how Mirror’s is now called A.L.I.C.E.
Prepare to continue waiting to be amazed.
And like usual, they’re not as thorough as they thought. They left the name Mirrors in their game list (in the “Forthcoming” section).
Checked out the EDGE games store and found out that there is a downside to this glorious step on the road to victory – MIRRORS is gone. Fear not though – A.L.I.C.E is coming next spring, and we’re still supposed to prepare being amazed.
Nice. I can only assume he’s gearing up for another exciting legal battle against those IP-stealing bastards at, er, A.L.I.C.E. Artificial Intelligence Foundation and EA, who released Alice in 2000, when Langdell’s clearly been planing his own game since 1876. Boo hiss, EA!
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3456/aliceya.jpg
Also, “Bobby Bearing Remix” has been canceled and replaced with “Bobby Bearing 2″.
hey Tim..
See this…. )*( thats my ass…kiss it.
hahahaha
Still waiting for those laywers letters too..seems the truth does win after all..
go figure !!!
Oh and take those tm’s of your site…you naughty boy.
Bit more complicated than than Brian. You’ll notice he now has two home pages now, one for USA and one for Europe. The USA one shows ‘TM’s while the Europe one shows (R)s.
He still has the European registered trademarks (and he still has the US ones until they actually get cancelled), and the one remedy NOT granted in the case was any common law rights that Langdell might have in the trademarks. So I think he can still use (until someone stops him) TM, but not (R) in the USA.
I’m trying to get to the bottom of all this and will stick a post up on GAF when I have worked out the detail.
Yes
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/10/12/judge-strips-langdell-of-trademarks-doesnt-award-ea-damages/
Wheee!
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/30982/IGDA_Revokes_Langdells_Membership_In_Wake_of_Edge_Trademark_Ruling.php
The International Game Developers Association announced today that it has revoked the membership of controversial Edge Games founder and former IGDA board member Tim Langdell.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/30982/IGDA_Revokes_Langdells_Membership_In_Wake_of_Edge_Trademark_Ruling.php
*chortle*
Prepare to be amazed by the new A.L.I.C.E. box art!
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/111/noalice.jpg
Amazing to see so much activity dedicated to such an unworthy and loathsome target. When I was CEO of Altamira Group, we hired Tim Langdell, who was presented to us as a legitimate candidate by a large national search firm. Imagine our surprise to find out that almost every single statement on his resume was a lie, just like his famous Wikipedia page. Tim lasted only a few months before he was terminated. He had nothing to do with the development of Genuine Fractals, which was the product of the Stephen Bender-led development team in the Windows version and Robert McNally in the Mac version. For him to claim the credit for their work is as shameful as his Edge-trolling.
That’s a great piece of info, thanks Dennis.
Here’s the quote from Tim’s own (Now deleted) Wikipedia page:
“In the late 1990s Langdell, in a brief excursion away from his central career in entertainment, was recruited to take on the role of COO of Altamira Group which with Langdell’s assistance produced the award winning Genuine Fractals Photoshop plug-in.[citation needed] In 1997, Genuine Fractals won a MacWorld Eddy.[13] It was notable also because Genuine Fractals was the first product developed on PC and ported to Mac to win an EDDY.[citation needed] Genuine Fractals is still an industry standard for professional image resizing and is used by graphics professionals worldwide.[citation needed]”
Citation needed indeed
Everything in the statement about Altamira is true except for the fact that it was produced “with Langdell’s assistance”. As to his “central career in entertainment”, we discovered that the hundreds of games that he claimed to have developed were, of course, illusory. It turned out that the “reputable” search firm never even vetted Tim before presenting him to us as a candidate.
I’ve never been motivated to read a 23 page legal document before. All I can say is “Hahahahahahahahahaha
{deep breath}
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha”
Repeat to fade….
Go directly to jail. Do not pass go….
I know this issue was considered closed and settled, based on the fact that there have been few updates here, but good old Langy managed to find a way to draw it out. He is declaring the civil trial and the USPTO cancelation invalid because Future was a partial owner of the Edge registration as of around 2008 and asking the PTO to reverse the cancellation. Unfortunately, Future has to back him on this to prevent their interests. The new back and forth can be read here. -sigh- http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92051465&pty=CAN&eno=18
Made me smile when, on an official legal document, the lawyer used the word “trolling”. (pg 21, halfway down)
Ah well, you get what’s coming to you, and I think Langdell will not make it through this with his dignity.